Once and for all: Anything but once

Ever notice how someone says that "this will sort it out, once and for all", but unless it's a little niggly thing, it almost never is? It only works if everyone is being co-operative. But what if people hate your idea? Case in point. Until recently, VenomFangX was the YouTube atheist's favourite flamebait. Apparently he's 15.

Now, this should sort out the issue of naturalistic atheism "once and for all". But if you have a look at the mirror video on VenomFangXMirror (VFX censors his channel and videos, and deletes his own videos every now and then), and read the comments, you'll come across plenty of attacks...

RPFS2008: The whole "outside the universe anything can happen" 'argument' is the last(severely flawed)bastion of a dying,and completely refuted and laughable,belief.Square circles, anyone?

My God is doing his job fine, thanks. We're alive and kicking, how about you? I believe in miracles ("you sexy thing"), as I am, well, kinda a witness to one (I saw a video of an interview the day after it happened and someone talked about it on the day), and more than a witness to another. The miracles I am talking about happened at Easter this year at an Easter camp.

Old or not, that argument is true. Something which is restricted to some boundaries is not going to "know" what's outside of it, unless something from outside the bounds does something. Your computer, for instance.

Oh, and just for kicks, I'll answer this one quite nicely:

empbac: When he USED to be an atheist...? The kid's fifteen! How much life experience can he seriously expect us to believe he has?

The main speaker at the easter camp I went to was 14 when he was converted. He's now 33. I'm turning 18 in a couple of days.

Obviously VFX wasn't young enough to flame. So they decided to bully a 12-year-old for being honest about gay marriage. He's taking it better than a lot of people on YouTube; I mean, I probably couldn't do that at his age.

Jacob Myers (the guy who's now writing for the blunt knife instead of me) suggests that he may be spoonfed. But come on, there's no excuse to bully a 12-year-old, there really isn't, especially when you're telling him to die.

Thing is, there are people who are atheists because they're afraid that they'll have to follow rules which they just don't like [waaaaah! :'(], and so "nothing" will stop them. What's not so obvious is that you're never "at the steering wheel", or so to speak. I was at the point where I just couldn't control myself: I was doing things I didn't want to do and avoiding things I did want to do. I gave my life to God, and, believe in him or not, I actually have more control over my life now. Because it sucks to be steered by the Devil.

But because this isn't obvious, people are afraid to take the plunge. Either they're truly evil, or just shit-scared. I doubt the former occurs, as a lot of atheists I know at least have a good side.

And that explains why there seems to be no chance for a "once and for all", in this regard. If you would like me to extrapolate some other cases, post a comment and if I get round to it (read: if I remember), I'll probably give it a crack.

Yes, I agreed with both videos.